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Discussions relating to this article taking place[edit]

There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland#Post-Troubles related incidents which has the potential to result in significant changes to this article. Thank you. FDW777 (talk) 13:58, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

A move discussion is on Talk:Springhill Massacre. The large majority of WP articles which include massacre, bombing, attack, ambush etc. have that word in lower case. In this case, it's capitalised. We should be consistent; such words in article titles should either all be capitalised or all be lower case. There's also the issue of whether or not it was part of the Battle of Lenadoon. Jim Michael (talk) 14:40, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

French TV crew[edit]

This is not a reliable reference. Even if it was, it does not reference the sentence When a French TV crew filmed the IRA at a training camp in Donegal, a representative of the General Headquarters Staff of the IRA was interviewed. He said the IRA would "[E]ventually sap the political will of the British government to remain in Ireland". What page 13 does say is The IRA's goal was to "eventually sap the political will of the British government to remain in Ireland", which is a different thing entirely since it doesn't mention French TV crews, Donegal or a member of the GHQ staff. Even more importantly, the citation given for that quote (Tonge, Johnathan, "Northern Ireland:Conflict and Change"p. 27") is completely bogus anyway, since that page is solely about discrimination. On page 66 of the same book there is a mention of the core idea about the IRA's thinking, During the Troubles, the use of force was designed to render Northern Ireland ungovernable, sapping the British will to remain. However that's not a quote from the IRA but simply their broad thinking, which probably belongs in this article somewhere more obviously than being presented as a quote from a French TV show. FDW777 (talk) 13:20, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Planters[edit]

There have been a varity of IPs (presumably the same editor, I haven't bothered to check geolocations or anything) changing Scottish and English settlers to simply English settlers. I think it's beyond any reasonable dispute there were Scots as well. FDW777 (talk) 21:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

See Ulster Scots people, Plantations of Ireland, and Plantation of Ulster for example. The IP edits are obvious vandalism. DuncanHill (talk) 21:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

True, but potentially helpful to document the nature of the problem here than explain it at AIV. FDW777 (talk) 21:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Trouble with The Troubles on the Belfast page[edit]

Would those interested in Wikipedia's discussion of the Troubles please help with management of the subject on the Belfast page.

In the three of four paragraphs devoted to the subject, we are having acute difficulty in agreeing on wording.

Please see the Belfast Talk page and recent edits.

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