Talk:Acme
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Titius, Gaius, Sempronius are probably more equivalent to "Tom, Dick, and Harry" than "John Doe" don't you think?
What is the quote from Walt Whitman doing there?Nathanmurray1 20:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Who is Daniel Latson? Google comes up with squat. Are we sure this isn't a case of someone creeping in to mention their own (unknown) stuff? The paragraph on it here doesn't mention that this Acme is ever in any published works. -- Tarquin 20:17 Oct 5, 2002 (UTC)
- It was added by a regular contributor (Fonzy), and it seems an unlikely thing to add if it was unknown (even if it is virtually unknown you would expect some mention of it to be on the web even if it was just the guy's homepage). So as a result I suspect that there is a typo in the name and that is why you can't find him. --Imran
- Well, Fonzy seems to make a lot of typos. (I don't mind, it means there's someone who makes more than me!) -- so that's plausible. I guess I'm in a suspicious mood because we've had quite a few people add things they've made up lately. I'll ask Fonzy to clarify -- Tarquin
I'm confused myself. I never wrote that. :-s. All i can think of is that one my freidns must have doen it when they were at my house, dot kow why. - fonzy
- In that case I'll move it here until someone can confirm.
- * the fictitious country of Acme is a fictitious country invented by Daniel Latson in 1950. He came up with a whole fictitious history of the country. It is still continued by his descendants.
I found this information a while ago and stupidly did not write back, and now i lost the URL to where I found it:
| Crastonium Emperors of Acme | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| 115-157 | Hevwod | ||
| 157-180 | Fawick | ||
| 180-209 | Baldwerd | ||
| 209-237 | Gorlac I | ||
| 237-245 | Osmald I | ||
| 245-277 | Aswald I | ||
| 277-320 | Masmick I | ||
| 320-358 | Bernven | ||
| 358-370 | Aacthen | ||
| 370-392 | Karkwern | ||
| 392-399 | Masmick II | ||
| 399-432 | Swozthord | ||
| 432-469 | Aswald II | ||
| 469 | Osmald II | ||
| 469-482 | Owock | ||
| 482-509 | Gorlac II | ||
| 509-517 | Andec | ||
| 517-537 | Gorlac III | ||
| 537-579 | Gorlac IV | ||
| 579-592 | Yekbet I | ||
| 592-639 | Hiah | ||
| 639 | Gorbin | ||
| 639-640 | Yekbet II | ||
| 640-654 | Osmald III | ||
| Barbarian Kings of Acme | |||
| 654-660 | Ologrod | ||
| 660-677 | Asmut I | ||
| 677-690 | Kaktos | ||
| 690 | Asmut II | ||
| 690-702 | Fawreck | ||
| 702-714 | Plaword | ||
| Kings of Acme | |||
| 714-732 | Kongston | ||
| 732-760 | Alfred | ||
| 760-770 | Algon | ||
| 770-795 | Elsbic I | ||
| 795-813 | Eldwin | ||
| 813-849 | Elsbic II | ||
| 849-850 | Aldwin | ||
| 850-874 | Osgon I | ||
| 874-878 | Osgon II | ||
| 878-899 | Pogtod I | ||
| 899-917 | Elsbic III | ||
| 917-931 | Ardwin | ||
| 931-957 | David I | ||
| 957-966 | Pogtod II | ||
| 966-968 | Fredrick I | ||
| 968-979 | David II | ||
| 979-982 | Ponin | ||
| 982-1001 | Edward I | ||
| 1001-1045 | Arthur I | ||
| 1045-1066 | David III | ||
| 1066-1070 | David IV | ||
| 1070-1071 | William I | ||
| 1071-1087 | Anastia | ||
| 1087-1105 | Arthur II | ||
| 1105-1167 | Edward II | ||
| 1167-1180 | Richardon | ||
| 1180-1190 | Osmon | ||
| 1190-1213 | Arthur III | ||
| 1213-1221 | Edwarden I | ||
| 1221-1240 | Edwarden II | ||
| 1240-1249 | Arthur IV | ||
| 1249-1269 | Arthur V | ||
| 1269-1284 | William II | ||
| 1284-1297 | David V | ||
| 1297-1320 | Samond | ||
| 1320-1321 | Edwarden III | ||
| 1321-1359 | Arthur VI | ||
| Kings of North Acme | Kings of South Acme | ||
| 1359-1372 | Constants I | 1359-1386 | Marcos |
| 1372-1380 | Arthur VII | 1386-1396 | John I |
| 1380-1405 | Edwarden IV | 1396-1403 | Daniel I |
| 1405-1439 | Paul | 1403-1452 | William III |
| 1439-1472 | Mary | 1452-1457 | David VI |
| 1472-1502 | Constants II | 1457-1470 | William IV |
| 1502-1520 | Arthur VIII | 1470-1505 | John II |
| 1505-1520 | William V | ||
| Kings of Acme | |||
| 1520-1558 | Daniel II | ||
| 1558-1590 | Constants II | ||
| 1590-1594 | Edward III | ||
| Kings of North Acme | Kings of South Acme | ||
| 1594-1600 | Arthur IX | 1594-1602 | Daniel III |
| 1600-1607 | Anne | 1602-1607 | Fredrick II |
| Kings of Acme | |||
| 1607-1639 | Anne & Fredrick II | ||
| 1639-1670 | Henry I | ||
| 1670-1671 | Edward IV | ||
| 1671-1690 | David VII | ||
| Kings of North Acme | Kings of South Acme | ||
| 1690-1730 | Henry II | 1690-1696 | Andrew |
| 1696-1730 | William VI | ||
| Temporary Ministers of Acme | |||
| 1730-1733 | Paul Andrews | ||
| 1733-1736 | Mark Peel | ||
| 1736-1739 | Robert Ducan | ||
| 1739-1742 | Henry Rivert | ||
| 1742-1745 | John Sanding | ||
| 1745-1748 | Robert Hassing | ||
| 1748-1751 | Daniel Malcom | ||
| 1751-1754 | Anne Greenfield | ||
| Kings of North Acme | Ministers of South Acme | ||
| 1754-1779 | Daniel IV | 1754-1766 | David Fredton |
| 1779-1820 | Aruthur X | 1766-1778 | George Stevens |
| 1820-1833 | Harold | 1778-1790 | George Jackston |
| 1833-1834 | John III | 1790-1802 | Thomas Hill |
| Ministers of North Acme | 1802-1814 | Edward Kings | |
| 1834-1840 | Fredrick Cook | 1814-1826 | David Lilstone |
| 1840-1846 | Simon Willis | 1826-1838 | Andrew Aling |
| 1846-1852 | Arthur Smith | 1838-1850 | Henry Tompson |
| 1852-1858 | Mary Adent | 1850-1862 | Robert Jilson |
| 1858-1864 | Paul Balto | 1862-1868 | Fredrick Sinford |
| 1864-1870 | Daniel Mills | 1868-1874 | Martin Bendep |
| 1870-1876 | George Missle | 1874-1880 | Robert Farthink |
| 1876-1882 | Peter Frogstill | 1880-1886 | John Redhill |
| 1882-1888 | William Potter | 1886-1892 | Thomas Lough |
| 1888-1894 | James Carton | 1892-1898 | William Hill |
| 1894-1900 | Charles Smitton | 1898-1904 | Anne Queenstant |
| 1900-1906 | Andrew Sykes | 1904-1910 | Alexander Patson |
| 1906-1912 | George Coope | 1910-1916 | Henry Jolts |
| 1912-1918 | Elizabeth Coope | 1916-1922 | Benjamin Daniels |
| 1918-1924 | Arthur Laston | 1922-1928 | John Sykes |
| 1924-1930 | Alan Martins | 1928-1930 | Richard Oakwood |
| Head Ministers of Acme | |||
| 1930-1935 | James Beepred | ||
| 1935-1940 | Stephen Arnolds | ||
| 1940-1945 | Edward Peel | ||
| 1945-1950 | Edward Nocktons | ||
| 1950-1955 | Peter Southwood | ||
| 1955-1960 | Nicholas Vinton | ||
| 1960-1965 | Martin Hews | ||
| 1965-1970 | Richard Balistone | ||
| 1970-1975 | Paul Jaferson | ||
| 1975-1980 | William Kranat | ||
| 1980-1985 | Edward Balistone | ||
| 1985-1990 | Tony Longstern | ||
| 1990-1995 | Sarah Martins | ||
| 1995-1997 | Thomas Cloudfern | ||
| Head of North Acme | Head of South Acme | ||
| 1997-2002 | Mark Richards | 1997-2002 | George Jolts |
| UNU Ministers of Acme | |||
| 2002 | Michael Ironfield | ||
hmmm well do you know what seacrh engien you used?
- I'm still getting only this page on google for "acme Daniel Latson". The names in the above table I've tried produce no results. Who put this table in anyway? Whoever you are, rather than tell us about the things within this fiction, please tell us where this Acme appears -- in which books / films / television series etc. If it only exists in the imagination of a single person, it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. -- Tarquin 20:43 Dec 9, 2002 (UTC)
My this is confusing Wiz!
Acronym[edit]
I was surprised to see "American Corporation Making Everything" as the expansion of the acronym, never having heard that before. Google has 4 results for this. The standard expansion, "A Company that Makes Everything," shows up 150 times. --Yath 12:44, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
A joke. I've substituted
- "The origins of the term are obscure, but if not the Latin word acme meaning high point or best, it would probably be derived from an acronym. The most common is "A Company that Makes Everything."
for this
- "The origins of the term are the Latin word acme "high point" or "best."'
No problems, I hope. Wetman 01:29, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I do not think that John Doe is the 'usual' name in English speaking countries. Indeed, http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/John-Doe lists 5 English speaking countries, and only the USA uses John Doe.
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What about the people who own acme.com?
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Erm it now appears to say that ACME has been given the backronym mentioned above, but that the backronym is in question. I'm not sure how a backronym can be in question, as by using it on this page it is now a backronym that is in use. Triangl 16:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Non-wikilinked Entries[edit]
At the moment, three of the first four entries don't contain any wikilinks to relevant articles. One (the international e-journal for critical geographies) contains an off-site link while the other two don't contain any links at all. I was under the impression that a disambiguation page was supposed to differentiate between Wikipedia articles, not provide a text list of absolutely everything a word could refer to. I think that if any of the non-wikilinked entries are subjects that should be covered by Wikipedia, they should be converted to red links. If they're not suitable for encyclopedia articles, they should be removed. Blackeagle 07:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Carmen Sandiego[edit]
Didn't the "gumshoes" at Acme Detective (?) always hunt down Carmen Sandiego on the TV show of the same name? --206.54.145.254 15:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Acne[edit]
I removed the entry below as it's probably baloney. The Acne vulgaris describes the etymology quite differently. Geira (talk) 13:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Acne vulgaris, a skin condition originally called acme in Greek, but whose spelling has been corrupted
Last Action Hero[edit]
Hi GB fan, as you request on your home page, here my reasoning for the mention of the movie:
I watched the movie (Last Action Hero) a few days ago, and then came here to Wikipedia to learn what the word "ACME" means. From the perspective of the movie, this decoration on some of their props is "trivia" (as it might be mentioned on IMDB (I am not a user there and am not planning to)). Each movie got hundreds of props, so no reason to mention ACME for the movie, because this is an ecyclopedia, not a movie-fan-place.
Yet, from the perspective of the entry "ACME" it is still relevant to mention the use of this term in a major movie production. Especially as Looney Tunes is already mentioned and it is clear that Last Action Hero wanted to send them a greeting.
Now, proof is in the movie itself, but I would need your help please how to cite that. I did link to the article about the movie, so that people can verify that the movie is real and can find enough detail to go and rent and watch the beast. What more do I need to do? Do I need to cite a time-reference within the movie (minutes and seconds or what)?
Consider this: Somebody has put reference to Looney Tunes a long time ago. They did not even link to that fine article. (I did look it up.) The Looney Tunes article also does NOT mention the term ACME. And there is not need, as I have explained above. It is just a great, typical, useage of that term. You did not delete the reference to Looney Tunes (and you should not, even with your logic "not in the article"). But you deleted mine, with an unsatisfactory explanation.
You can see that I am a new user; I like Wikipedia and I try to make rare contributions when I see something "missing". I want to contribute, not just to take out. Now it feels like when I try, there is some veteran lurking with a robot and they quickly delete rather than talk issues or make entries better. Please do not just delete again but give a genuine reasoning. Thanks. --Bassilois (talk) 15:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
This concerns the entry below.
- Last Action Hero, The movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger is showing several props (dynamite boxes...) marked ACME, probably as a nodd to Looney Tunes
- This page is not an article, it is a disambiguation page. We have a manual of style on disambiguation pages, it can be found at WP:MOSDAB. So all entries are supposed to follow the guidance given on that page.
- In the section about individual entries it says that each entry will have only one blue link, your entry has two.
- In your entry you say that it is "probably as a nodd to Looney Tunes" That is an opinion not supported by any reliable sources and as this is not an article this page is not the place to provide those sources. As it also says in the individual entries section, "References should not appear on disambiguation pages. Dab pages are not articles; instead, incorporate the references into the target articles."
- Now, does it even belong on the page? The first paragraph of WP:MOSDAB says:
- Disambiguation pages ("dab pages") are designed to help a reader find Wikipedia articles on different topics that could be referenced by the same search term, as described in the Disambiguation guideline. Disambiguation pages are not articles; they are aids in searching.
- In the editing guideline on disambiguation, Wikipedia:Disambiguation in a subsection of Disambiguation pages titled What not to include it says:
- "Do not include articles unless the term being disambiguated is actually described in the target article. (For example, the Set disambiguation page legitimately has an entry for Volleyball.)"
- Based on the manual of style for disambiguation pages and the editing guideline on disambiguation the entry does not belong. I see you have added a second blue link to another entry. That does not belong either according to the manual of style. GB fan 16:28, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
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