Talk:Montgomery County, Pennsylvania

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Hi, I cleaned it up a little bit, but a couple of comments out there are unsubstantiated. I hope someone can help clean up the culture section a bit. I'll be working to try and expand some of the data, but hopefully I can get a hand.Montco 01:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)


Coroner[edit]

Hi, I'm David Ewald. I live in Montgomery County, and recently added a note regarding the coroner's refusal to file autopsy reports with the prothonotary. "Dough (some number)" deleted this as "junk". However, if it's appropriate to list the names of the coroner and the prothonotary, it's appropriate to note whether the prothonotary's office has the records it is supposed to have, and whether the coroner's office is functioning properly. It is also appropriate to note the duties of these offices. Those who want to review public records should know when a county office's denial of access is illegal. The links I provided in my post show that the law in this matter is not disputable. It may be carped that I provided no citation for the coroner's refusal. However, you may hear that refusal simply by contacting the coroner's office and asking for these public records. I will delete this edit myself if the coroner decides to obey the law. In the mean time, the article now has information on the functionality of offices of Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

Intro article[edit]

Hello, figured I would chime in. This is a proposed edit I think might be beneficial. I would expand on the statement describing the physical nature of the county's areas. My statement would sound more like this:

"Montgomery County is a very diverse in how it incorporates a wide variety of different types of urban, suburban, and rural neighborhoods. The western portions of the county tend to feature rural areas such as Harleysville, New Hanover, and Hatfield that surround small towns such as East Greenville, Lansdale, and Pottstown. The central portion features the city of Norristown, the county seat, as well as major suburban residential developments and business park centers such as King of Prussia, Plymouth Meeting, Blue Bell, the large borough of Conshohocken, and the borough of Ambler. The eastern portion is defined primarily by the PA-611 corridor which features densely populated older townships such as Cheltenham, Abington, Upper Moreland, and Horsham Townships, and large concentrations of twin homes and some row homes in dense towns and boroughs such as Rockledge, Jenkintown, Willow Grove, and Hatboro. The southernmost tip of the county also features the wealthy suburban Lower Merion Township.

Perhaps this could be incorporated into the Geography or Community section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.11.221.246 (talk) 22:35, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Huntingdon Valley[edit]

There's no article yet for Huntingdon Valley, and I'd like to create at least a stub for it in the near future. Once I do that, I'd like to insert this place into the Communities and Census-Designated Places section of this entry. Does a community have to be a census-designated place (CDP) in order to be there? And if so, is there a way I can find out if Huntingdon Valley is such a place? Would Huntingdon Valley have had an entry already if it were a CDP?

While it could be argued that a lot of what can be said is already covered in the Lower Moreland and Bethayres entries, Huntingdon Valley covers more that just these places. Five townships - Abington, Lower Moreland, Lower Southampton, Upper Moreland, Upper Southampton - in two different counties - Bucks and Montgomery - constitute the area known as Huntingdon Valley. Huntingdon Valley is situated so close to two Montgomery County boroughs - Bryn Athyn and Rockledge - and the farthest northeastern part of the city and county of Philadelphia that sometimes the boundaries of these blur.

In fact, while Bethayres does have an entry, albeit a stub, it had not been listed in this section, so I went ahead and added it. Please feel free to revert it if it doesn't qualify as a CDP or other criteria. RSLitman 02:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks. CDPs are defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, but other unincorporated communities are also listed with CDPs in PA county articles. My guess is that whoever made the Bethayres article did not think or know to put it in the section. Communities in two counties are listed in both. Ruhrfisch 02:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

It occurred to me after I posted this that any Huntingdon Valley entry should also go into any Bucks County lists that exist, even though the proportion of Huntingdon Valley that's in Montgomery County is a lot larger than that which is in Bucks County. I ought to see if any other Post Office designations that cover both counties, but cover one county a lot more than the other, appear in both counties. I know that while the borough of Hatboro is totally within Montgomery County, the Post Office designation of Hatboro extends somewhat into neighboring townships, including at least one, Warminster Township, that is in Bucks County. (The now-closed "Hatboro" office of the state/commonwealth government agency that handles unemployement compensations claims was actually located in Warminster Township.) RSLitman 19:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The Name "Montco"[edit]

As a "life-long Montgomery County resident" (20 years and 5 days in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, the remaining time in Montgomery County, Maryland), I've never cared for the abbreviation of "Montco". While it (and similar local county abbreviations such as Chesco, Burlco, and Delco) may do fine as an abbreviation in headlines in the Philadelphia Inquirer and other newspapers, I question its appropriateness in a serious document like this one is supposed to be. RSLitman 19:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

  • When I hear "MontCo" I think of the Community College, not the County. Passdoubt | Talk 02:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I think it is worth mentioning as an abbreviation for these two things, but agree it should not be used in the article and that it does not seem properly encyclopedic. Are there any official examples (for example Southern Lancaster County has the Solanco School District?). Ruhrfisch 02:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I went to the Chester County, Delaware County, and Burlington County (New Jersey) entries to see if the above-mentioned abbreviations appeared on their pages. The Burlington County page didn't contain "Burlco" at all. On the Chester County page, the only hit I got came about as a result of "chesco" being embedded in the county's official web site's URL, just as "montco" is embedded in Montgomery County's official web site's URL. On the Delaware County page, I got two "Delco" hits because the various school districts in the county are listed there, and two of them - Penn-Delco School District and Southeast Delco School District - contain "Delco" in their names. I visited the the official district web page for Penn-Delco (the one for Southeast Delco appeared to be down, perhaps because of the holiday weekend), and it appears that the use of "Delco" in the district's name is official, not just a convenient abbreviation of "Delaware County" by whoever wrote this portion of the county's Wikipedia entry. RSLitman 19:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Article Name[edit]

Why "Montgomery County, Pennsylvania"? Why not "County of Montgomery, Pennsylvania"? Small change but shouldn't we use the most correct, not just the vernacular? Awg1010 (talk) 23:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I think almost all of the counties in the USA are "X County, Y" where Y is the state name. The rationale is probably that that is how most people would look for them. I also note that County of Montgomery, Pennsylvania is a redirect here. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Although not exactly definitive, the County's own official web site (newer than these Talk posts) uses "Montgomery County, Pennsylvania", except for the occasional MontCo babble. ChrisJBenson (talk) 09:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Is the Origin of the County Name really uncertain?[edit]

The administrative county of Montgomery was created in 1784, but the area had a community named Montgomery for almost a century before that. Originally deeded by William Penn in 1682, the Welsh [Quaker] settlement of Montgomery had only a handful of residents in 1707. It was incorporated and officially designated as Montgomery Township by the Pennsylvania Provincial Assembly in 1714. This information can be found at the Montgomery Township Historical Society web site here and is in turn from "An Erudite Little Township", a pamphlet published in 1979 by Montgomery historian James A Williams.

In light of the timeline information above, I respectfully suggest that this Pennsylvania community's 300 hundred year association with the name Montgomery is unlikely to be derived from a soldier who was born in Ireland 24 years after Montgomery's incorporation. Furthermore, one might consider that even today, at least sixteen places within Montgomery County have Welsh names, with a similar Welsh prevalence in the surrounding counties. I remain with the obvious premise that the County of Montgomery in Pennsylvania is named for the County of Montgomery in Wales (albeit inherited through the earlier naming of Montgomery Township).
I don't believe this article should include speculation associating the county name with Richard Montgomery (born 1738), and I don't agree that Reliable Sources can confirm that view. ChrisJBenson (talk) 09:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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