Talk:Neil Young

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Former good articleNeil Young was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
November 2, 2004Featured article candidateNot promoted
December 4, 2005[article nominee]Listed
October 30, 2006Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

Unplugged[edit]

Um, why is Unplugged not listed in the Discography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thoughtcat (talk • contribs) 14:40, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

The discography is the article is only his main albums, and does not include live albums - see Neil_Young_discography_and_filmography#Live_albums -- Beardo (talk) 21:09, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

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Associated acts[edit]

This section seems to be out of control, for instance, how is Young associated with Elton John ? See Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts - FlightTime (open channel) 03:38, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Fix formatting error at end of article[edit]

"Juno awards" section has awards and nominated song/person switched - a simple fix but I don't want to create a Wikipedia account just to fix it lol :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:9C00:3AD0:D29:6704:979E:171B (talk) 06:27, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Neil Young for deletion[edit]

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Harmonica[edit]

Harmonica is absent from the infobox. Not sure why a consensus needs to be reached. You can check this video for proof that he plays harmonica. [1] For having to start a discussion on this because apparently that's what is supposed to happen, nobody will respond. So I am going to add it. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 05:34, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Waging Heavy Peace--[edit]

Had a copy land in my lap the other day and being a fan since the Springfield days I began to read. I couldn't help noticing that Mr Young had been having trouble writing new music since his new found sobriety. Neil go back and check out several paragraphs on pages 443-444-445. But what do I know I'm just an old hippie surfer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.246.96.243 (talk) 14:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Proto-grunge[edit]

I went ahead and removed the "proto-grunge" genre. While he certainly may have had some influence on some grunge bands (such as Pearl Jam) and even recorded a grunge album with Pearl Jam, this does not make grunge one of his primary genres, especially since the Mirror Ball album appears to be his only work in the genre. Because of this, I removed the "proto-grunge" genre and left a note saying it should only be added back in if he records more grunge in the future, which is highly unlikely. If anyone can find evidence that Young had much more involvement in the grunge genre besides Mirror Ball and influencing grunge bands and has reliable sources to back it up, then by all means, add it back, but as of right now, I fail to see Neil Young as having involvement in the grunge genre outside of the Mirror Ball album and influencing a few grunge bands such as Pearl Jam. Moline1 (talk) 15:23, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to have to put my vote in to bring proto-grunge back, as there is literature referring to Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, Rust Never Sleeps, and Ragged Glory as having proto-grunge elements. SweetTaylorJames (talk) 05:10, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Have the sources for it? I want to see them myself. They should also be credible. And let's not forget that grunge is made up of many genres besides hard rock, and includes genres such as heavy metal, something I don't see Neil Young as having ventured in on those albums. Nonetheless, if you have the sources, please do post them here. Also, do not add in the genre until a consensus can be reached (hopefully). Also, if we can reach a consensus that proto-grunge is appropriate here, then we should include a blurb with those sources on the grunge page, most likely in a section called proto-grunge, which would detail Younf as well as the other artists and bands that have been described as having elements of grunge before the full genre emerged in the mid-to-late-1980's. Moline1 (talk) 23:36, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree that there should be a distinction between grunge and proto-grunge. I don't think authors are saying that Neil Young is a grunge artist as much as they are using the term "proto-grunge" to describe grunge in its pre-natal form on display in his work with Crazy Horse (due to the synthesis of garage rock elements, low-fi production, cathartic lyrics, extended jam sessions, and grungy fashion all coming together to influence the eventual grunge movement). But again I agree that there is no point in calling Young a literal grunge artist, just that maybe "proto-grunge" is appropriate in the spirit the authors intend. So there's no big conflict, I would be good with either could work to either put it in the infobox, or to put it in more informally in the lead paragraph (or neither if that's the way the vote goes, I'm easy). And without further ado, here are some texts with authors that refer to Young in the context of proto-grunge. I don't know how many of them are academic, I just looked for a bunch.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dixie_Lullaby/mor24CeBsGwC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Neil+Young+proto-grunge&pg=PA90&printsec=frontcover
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Neil_Young_Nation/3zzZBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Neil+Young+proto-grunge&pg=PT144&printsec=frontcover
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Exit_Music/0q9bTJp2Bi4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Neil+Young+proto-grunge&pg=PT356&printsec=frontcover
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Pearl_Jam_Eddie_Vedder/LB43DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Neil+Young+proto-grunge&pg=PT189&printsec=frontcover
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Grown_Up_All_Wrong/EdN8VLiEZtcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Neil+Young+proto-grunge&pg=PA468&printsec=frontcover

SweetTaylorJames (talk) 03:18, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I looked through albums such as Ragged Glory and Rust Never Sleeps, and they are both described as grunge and proto-grunge with sources respectively. I am going to add back in the proto-grunge genre and "close" this discussion down since it is not needed and found evidence of more involvement in the grunge genre besides the Mirror Ball album and influencing his backing band for that album. I am also gonna update the grunge page to account for this as well. Moline1 (talk) 02:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Sounds good, thank you. SweetTaylorJames (talk) 08:11, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Can we get a more flattering lede picture?[edit]

I get that our goal isn't to make Neil Young look pretty, but you have to admit, that's not a flattering lede picture. Not only is it out of focus, he kind of looks like he's falling asleep. If there weren't any other pictures then obviously there is nothing we can do about it, but there are other pictures, like a lot. I'd change it, but I've never edited this article, and I don't want to change the lede picture without a discussion. Famous Hobo (talk) 22:21, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Go ahead and be bold. KitHutch (talk) 01:01, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
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