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D&D pictures up for deletion[edit]
Just thought I'd let you know, some editions of D&D photos are up for deletion and no courtesy notification was presented at the articles they effect. So I'm doing that in lieu of the nominator. Leitmotiv (talk) 01:27, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing this out. I hope they end up being kept, the images add information about how the game was presented. BernardoSulzbach (talk) 02:45, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Plus, as the pictures are used in the Editions of Dungeons & Dragons article, these are permissible non-free use as the images are used for identification of the respective editions, which is the very subject of the article, making their inclusion a matter of commentary. In short I dispute the claim that these fail the WP:NFCC. I cannot remove the speedy tags as I was the uploaded of these images (but the original, mind you, but I reuploaded them after a previous removal without discussion resulted in their deletion), so would someone please remove the speedy tags and take this to WP:FFD, as I would like this to be settled by more than just the opinion of one admin. oknazevad (talk) 13:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Oknazevad: Great! But your argument falls on deaf ears here, you must argue your points at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 September 13. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:15, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that is correct, you must add your arguments to the FFD page for them to hold any weight. 2601:240:E000:7A5:4AF1:7FFF:FEE5:C031 (talk) 01:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Didn't realize that there was a discussion started. There's more files than just the few already listed there. All should be kept. oknazevad (talk) 01:46, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yep, there are several! And more were removed by the same user from several other articles maybe 4-7 days ago. 2600:1700:E820:1BA0:4AF1:7FFF:FEE5:C031 (talk) 12:56, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Didn't realize that there was a discussion started. There's more files than just the few already listed there. All should be kept. oknazevad (talk) 01:46, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that is correct, you must add your arguments to the FFD page for them to hold any weight. 2601:240:E000:7A5:4AF1:7FFF:FEE5:C031 (talk) 01:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Oknazevad: Great! But your argument falls on deaf ears here, you must argue your points at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 September 13. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:15, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Plus, as the pictures are used in the Editions of Dungeons & Dragons article, these are permissible non-free use as the images are used for identification of the respective editions, which is the very subject of the article, making their inclusion a matter of commentary. In short I dispute the claim that these fail the WP:NFCC. I cannot remove the speedy tags as I was the uploaded of these images (but the original, mind you, but I reuploaded them after a previous removal without discussion resulted in their deletion), so would someone please remove the speedy tags and take this to WP:FFD, as I would like this to be settled by more than just the opinion of one admin. oknazevad (talk) 13:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
dndtomb.com[edit]
I'm looking for opinions about using dndtomb.com as a source, specifically their article The Ultimate Guide to D&D Dice added as a source here. I originally removed it because User:68.94.118.129 had added dndtomb.com to 4 different articles in a way that looked to me like spamming. In addition, the site appears patently unreliable for Wikipedia. Their articles appear to have been written for SEO, they're filled with affiliate links, and all of the articles I checked were written by "GREYHAWK". This article also includes several images that are uncredited and appear to have been stolen from other sites, for example this watermarked image on Etsy. I reverted what is, to me, clearly refspam, but it was reinstated by Leitmotiv. I don't want to edit war so I've brought it here for discussion. Is this a valid reference or should it be removed as spam? Woodroar (talk) 23:12, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- Even presuming good faith on the IP's part, as a blog it is a WP:SPS and not reliable as a source. I think it should be removed. oknazevad (talk) 23:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Woodroar: I may have reverted too quick, but that's likely because I didn't see this particular edit as refspam (it was the only instance I saw). I merely briefly looked at the source, saw it wasn't a wiki, and reverted seeing that another inline citation is not a bad thing (at least presumably). I wouldn't call the site a blog, though it may qualify as not being "an expert" per @Oknazevad:, though we routinely call newspapers experts and cite them, but they are frequently inaccurate (they make tons of mistakes and routinely get their facts wrong - it's a widespread phenomenon). However, seeing as how the site is being questioned, I have no problem with it being deleted as being an invalid source. I just thought the original revert was a kneejerk undo. I stand corrected. Leitmotiv (talk) 00:49, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- No worries at all. There was always a chance that I was missing something obvious about the site or something I didn't know. It's definitely happened before and I'm sure it'll happen again. Cheers! Woodroar (talk) 15:15, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- I agree that considering newspapers "experts" in virtually anything backfires more often than not. However, this is a 2-page, 4 months old, "anonymous" blog which looks too much like WP:SPS to me. BernardoSulzbach (talk) 16:24, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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