Talk:Chives

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Family[edit]

Welsh onion is grown for leaves too. What about leeks? are they in the same family? -- Oct 2002, Tarquin

Welsh onions and leeks are in the same family, indeed the same genus, Allium. -- WormRunner | Talk 06:53, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Content source[edit]

It should be noted that the content introduced in this edit is from Andham2000's website and thus should not be removed as a copyright violation. -SCEhardt 00:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Content problem[edit]

In the section History and Folklore in the first part it is said that Marco Polo brought chives from China to Europe. But later it is said that Romans (who lived some 1000 years before Marco Polo) believed that chives had this and that medical usage. So the content is self inconsistant.--Philopp 12:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the inconsistencies - MPF 15:18, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Japanese and Chinese cuisine[edit]

There was a paragraph about Japanese and Chinese cuisine in the article before i rewrote it, I couldn't find any references for that claim, all I found related to Chinese chives, which is a completely different species.

Anyone? -Obli (Talk)? 20:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Onion Family?[edit]

Not sure on this, but shouldn't the first line refer to onions as a genus rather than family? (Allium) 67.170.108.226 (talk) 07:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Way back when, onions were considered to be lilies. Now days, lilies and onions are not considered to be even in the same order. Was this due to DNA studies on bulb producing plants? Seems that maybe bulb plants are a larger and more diverse group than origninally thought. I imagine that may be because the common ancestor of bulb plants evolved early in flowering plant history. I wonder if bulbs developed before the KT extinction. That would be a hell of a survival tactic. Bulbs would stay in the ground for a few years, then when the earth settled back to "normal", they would sprout and continue as if nothing happened. I have a new appreciation for bulb producing plants. Well, I'm just speculating. I'm going to look all that up and see if I came close. Sorry about typing out my thoughts, but this is fascinating.
Well, to answer your question, yes it is the onion family, now Alliaceae. 75.88.30.191 (talk) 05:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Clumps or not?[edit]

First the article says the name is always plural because they always grow in clumps, not singly. Later it says that a species was found in Maine that grows singly, not in clumps.Tom NM (talk) 18:14, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought we were talking about Allium schoenoprasum. If the other chives that grows in Maine is a species other than Allium schoenoprasum, then it should probably be mentioned in this article only as another species that is also called chives with a link to a page about that species. A similar thing was done on both the Yam article and the Sweet Potato article. 75.88.30.191 (talk) 06:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Flowers on leaves?[edit]

This sentence seems dubious: "The leaves are hollow and tubular, up to 50 cm long, and 2–3 mm in diameter, with a soft texture, although, prior to the emergence of a flower from a leaf, they may appear stiffer than usual."

Surely flowers grow on stems, not leaves? Also, the flower stems are and remain stiff even after the head has gone to seed. Or is the meaning intended to be that the leaves around the flower stiffen for a while before the flower emerges? That would be hard to define; the flowers are quite dense within the clump. Madgenberyl (talk) 17:52, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

There's a bunch of odd terminology in there. It's been corrected. --Juventas (talk) 03:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 16:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Chives → Chive – Move to singular name per WP:SINGULAR. 86.21.250.191 (talk) 00:04, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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  • Oppose this is almost always used in the plural. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 05:17, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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Suggestion for video footage of cleaning chives[edit]

I would suggest adding a video of cleaning chives in preparation for cooking.

I'm involved with the Global Lives Project, a non-profit organization working to create an open video library of human experiences around the world. GLP has video footage of two men in China cleaning bunches of chives to prepare them for the kitchen. Here is the detailed footage, which can be edited down to 3-5 minutes. -FefeGong (talk) 20:54, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

AE template[edit]

Do we really need the American English template? I've read through the article and it seems to be completely free of Americanisms and other regional English signifiers. This is unusual and a Good Thing in Wikipedia articles, of course. --Ef80 (talk) 16:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

There are some American spellings, e.g. "flavor" rather than "flavour". So, yes, we do need the template to ensure current and future consistency. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Actually you don't need the template. You just need to revert and refer to WP:RETAIN if it is questioned. Otherwise every English article in Wikipedia would need the template.MartinezMD (talk) 20:58, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Personally I think every article should have an ENGVAR template; it would avoid a lot of time-wasting inappropriate copy-editing. At the least it does no harm to have the template here. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:44, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

oxalic acid[edit]

I find it strange that people are warned not to eat rhubarb leaves which are stated as having 0.5% oxalic acid and yet chives are listed as having 1.6% oxalic acid on the oxalic acid page. Why do we eat chives then? is the warning on the rhubarb page necessary? 198.103.184.76 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:30, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd suspect the rhubarb warning is unnecessary (and has been confused for antifreeze poisoning since that produces calcium oxalate crystals too). I'll see if I can find an appropriate source.MartinezMD (talk) 18:36, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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Plural noun[edit]

IP user User: ‎2a02:2121:344:fe67:6137:67f1:b5d8:c548 reverted my change to the lede, aimed at getting some grammatical sense into referring to a plant that has only a plural noun. He cited [1], which indeed asserts that 'chives' is a plural-only noun. (Note that oxforddictionaries.com is entirely unrelated to The Oxford English Dictionary, and is just trading on that name)

Amusingly they then give two examples; the second is 'chive and garlic dressing'. If we're being pedantic, shouldn't that be 'chives and garlic dressing'?

At any rate, I accept the revert. I've tried to make sense of the plural/singular problem with a new edit. MrDemeanour (talk) 18:06, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

"Oxford Dictionaries is proud to publish the Oxford English Dictionary [...]." [2] 2A02:2121:344:FE67:6137:67F1:B5D8:C548 (talk) 19:04, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
I am better-informed; thank you. MrDemeanour (talk) 03:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
I think that "chives" can also be used as a singular mass noun, with a meaning like "the herb chives", where a singular verb is correct, but I agree that for consistency it's better to use the plural.
Nouns in apposition are always(?) made singular in form. Compare "scissors", always plural, with "a scissor movement". Peter coxhead (talk) 13:30, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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