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Kind of Weird Thing[edit]

Hey does anyone else think that the contrast between societies with high quantities of leisure time and "complex" societies is a little suspect? Like, the author of that sentence is basically saying that being complex as a society and chilling out a lot are mutually exclusive. Or, more specifically, that hunter-gatherer societies are not complex. Someone braver than me should delete that sentence. Leland Graaaaand Brooks 22:08 EST 6 Oct. 2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.180.207.38 (talk) 02:09, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Western centric approaches to leisure, how about some African approaches or Far eastern approaches? How about a Health benefits mention, with science included :D[edit]

Hi, I can't help but feel this article needs a section or two for other ways leisure is done, but not in the west. Leisure is after all, a thing that all humans do. Who thinks such a broad topic like this deserves higher importance classification. Please see the way this is done.FactsoverFeelings (talk) 14:06, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Brandy[edit]

In the Example Section, there is listed a reference of "brandy" as a leisure activity and a link to [1], which in no way puts forth the idea of brandy consumption as a leisure activity. In fact, Brandy has long been a drink with a "working" history. In the book Iron Kingdom by Christopher Clark (published by Harvard University Press) it is said that "government communications took up to 10 days to travel just a few miles, partly because their first stop was the local tavern, where they were unsealed, passed around and discussed over glasses of brandy". Kmikeym 23:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Active v. Passive?[edit]

Where do traditional Western Civ. leisure pursuits like reading and parlor games fit in such categories? TheCormac (talk) 00:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

Is the picture of the girl reading the book with her feet in the camera really necessary? I think somebody should crop the picture or remove it.Beardownaz9 20:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

also confused on this one. what is wrong with the picture? its no different than the girl on the raft -- her head is in the picture, but that does not make it unencyclopedic. what is there about her feet or the chair or anything else in the picture that makes it unacceptable? i think it works well here as putting ones feet up in a park and resting is a great symbol of leisure, isn't it? 69.118.244.33 02:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
With the womans feet taking up so much of the picture and it being the pictures main focus is what makes it unecylopedic. It would be fine if almost 50% of the picture wasent feet. But I think an admin would be best to tell us if it unecylopedic or not,I dont want to get in an edit war. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beardownaz9 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 7 April 2007
The fact of the matter is that this picture serves no purpose for those seeking information about leisure. There are four pictures; it's totally unnecessary. I'm sure readers are able to grasp the concept of leisure with the first picture. ~"Oh, I didn't know reading or talking in a cafe are also considered leisurely activities!"~ - tbone (talk) 03:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry guys the pic ain't goin'! It's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY beyond neccessary because it is a huge huge HUGE symbol of leisure. There is a HEAVENLY reason for it too be here you butt heds! --75.187.106.39 (talk) 23:55, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Sexy feet![edit]

Discuss! Sid 12:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm acting on year-old consensus and removing the image; if anyone objects, feel free to propagate the BRD cycle, but please notify me so that I can participate in the discussion! haz (talk) 14:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Shoshone[edit]

Most people assume that the members of the Shoshone band worked ceaselessly in an unremitting search for sustenance. Such a dramatic picture might appear confirmed by an erroneous theory almost everyone recalls from schooldays: A high culture emerges only when the people have the leisure to build pyramids or to create art. The fact is that high civilization is hectic, and that primitive hunters and collectors of wild food, like the Shoshone, are among the most leisured people on earth.

Is this true? Viriditas (talk) 03:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey everybody, I don't know if this is the place to post this but...[edit]

...if you folks want an uneditable history of leisure, see my talk page.Icemerang (talk) 00:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Leisure[edit]

This article seems to give a total misrepresentation of early-19th century leisure. The assumptions made about the 19th century somehow creating leisure time as trades unions gained shorter working hours for workers are absurd considering that those longer working hours were themselves essentially a 19th century development. It shows total disregard of the leisure preference of the former, primarily agricultural workforce - Saint Mondays, &c. - as opposed to the increasingly commercial leisure experience of the "industrious society". I think it may be worth updating the page to remove some of the fallacious misconceptions that have been used, clearly from preconceptions as opposed to evidence... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.220.6 (talk) 21:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

History of leisure[edit]

Agree with the above. Indeed, this excerpt from The Survey of the Board of Agriculture for Somerset 1798 quite forcefully contradicts the claim that leisure was historically only enjoyed by upper classes:

The possession of a cow or two, with a hog and a few geese, naturally exalts the peasant, in his own conception, above his brothers in the same rank of society . . . In sauntering after his cattle, he acquires a habit of indolence . . . Day labor becomes disgusting; the aversion increases by indulgence and at length the sale of a half fed calf, or hog, furnishes the means of adding intemperance to idleness.

72.209.128.223 (talk) 18:07, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Annual Holidays[edit]

Does this not need a section on history of annual holidays? Not the single 'saint' day holidays but the week or more that is taken in the summer? In Britian we have just got the right to "From 1 April 2009 Holiday entitlement to be extended from 4.8 weeks to 5.6 weeks: from 24 to 28 days for a worker working a 5 day week" So its an ongoing process.

I cannot find it on Wikipedia. Am I missing something OK the Wakes week is part of the picture: Wakes week

Szczels (talk) 17:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

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Statistics[edit]

Something about UK leisure in the 20th century: [1] page 20 "Assuming (as in fact the evidence approximately confirms) that sleep remains unchanged, then the residual, leisure time, has increased overall across the population by just about 20 minutes over the last 35 years. But when we add in the gender effects, we find that men's leisure time stays pretty much unchanged, varying only by a few minutes, as their reduction in paid work time is taken up by their increase in unpaid work. Women gained some 40 minutes per day of extra leisure time, though, in absolute terms, they still have some 50 minutes less leisure per day than men. Nonetheless, something approaching half of the gender differential has disappeared over the last third of a century." and conclusion from page 33: "So if there is any simple single conclusion to be drawn about what are in detail quite complex trends in leisure patterns over the last part of the century, it must be this: for that part of this century for which we have consistent and comprehensive evidence, it seems as if the more optimistic prophecies of the 19th century writers are coming, slowly, to pass. By the end of the 1990s, British people had decreased their mid-century working hours by 23 minutes per day, or two hours 40 minutes per week, and gained two hours and twenty minutes more leisure per week over 34 years. We might perhaps define this change as progress - at a rate of seven extra weekly hours of leisure per century?" --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 07:31, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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